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"He was just an idiot," says Bernie

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11/07/2025

Former F1 supremo, Bernie Ecclestone, appears to be just as mystified at Christian Horner's sacking as the rest of us.

The 94-year-old, who has been embroiled in numerous controversies of his own making over the years - most of which he appeared to revel in - is close to the former Red Bull boss and at one point was thought to be grooming him as a successor.

Speaking to the Telegraph, Ecclestone, though mystified by Horner's sacking - especially the 'with immediate effect' aspect of it - tends to think it goes back to the improper behaviour scandal that arose early last year.

"This business that he got involved with eighteen months ago, he was just an idiot," said the former Brabham boss. "He was a 50-year-old who thought he was twenty, thought he was one of the boys."

Despite the amount of material leaked to the media, Horner was twice cleared of sexual harassment and coercive behaviour, though there is a legal case going ahead next year.

Ecclestone, who ruled his teams, the sport and the media with a rod of iron, admits that he holds little sympathy for the woman at the centre of the scandal.

"I often wonder, when these situations happen, why, if the girl is so upset with the advances of someone, they don't just say, 'Oi you, stop it!'" he said.

Though he feels the scandal was at the heart of it all, Ecclestone believes it provided the perfect ammunition for the various factions within the Red Bull team and indeed the Red Bull empire to oust the man, as the team appeared to become more 'Milton Keynes' centric.

"It would probably have been better if they had said, 'Come in, Christian, sit down,'" he said. "But the bottom line is that there are people there who thought he was getting away with things, that he was acting as if it was not the Red Bull Ring, but the Christian Horner Ring.

"He got away with so many things. And all the time you're delivering, people close their eyes. But when you stop delivering, people start looking. One or two begin thinking, 'Well, I could do a better job'."

As is so often the case, it was the death of the 'father figure', Dietrich Mateschitz, that sparked division within the Red Bull 'family'.

"Genuinely, it was a little bit of a muddle," said Ecclestone. "Christian was the chief executive. If I'm the chief executive of a company, I want to be in charge. I want to do all the things that I think are right, and if I'm wrong, they can fire me, they can say, 'Sorry, bye-bye, you made a few mistakes.'

"So, the minute Christian can't be in that position to do what he thinks should be done, then for him it's not easy. You can't half-manage something. You need to have someone, I always say, to turn the lights on and off. You only really need one person.

"It was suggested to him he should be a team manager and leave the commercial side to somebody else," Ecclestone continued. "His idea was, 'I am the chief executive'.

"But you get very few executives who can do everything, from engineering to public relations. He had been running the company the way he thought it should be run. For a long time, people were prepared to say, 'OK, fair enough, he's getting the job done'. But as soon as you go off a little bit, people look and say, 'Hang on'.

"Christian won a lot of championships. He was used to winning. So, it's not easy when you're not winning, and when you know that it's not entirely your fault."

Talking to RacingNews365, Ecclestone revealed that he had spoken to Horner on Monday, in the aftermath of the British Grand Prix weekend, and there was no indication of what was to come.

"I spoke to him and he didn't know," said Ecclestone. "Well, he might have known," he added, "but he didn't tell me. It was a normal conversation. We were talking about Max. Nothing to do with this, otherwise he would have told me.

"All I know is the message the whole world has got, which is, he's been fired, effective immediately, and it's the 'effective immediately' I don't understand," he admitted. "Why would they ask him to leave with immediate effect? It's like he's murdered somebody.

"If you're going to fire somebody, then you'd have a chat before and you'd come out with something like, 'We've agreed to part company,' or something. But to come out and say, 'you're fired with immediate effect,' he must have done something a bit drastic for that to happen.

"Let's assume they were unhappy with the results, which I can understand, that's one thing. But to be fired immediately, that's a different thing altogether."

Sadly, the real winners here are the likes of Drive to Survive, for as the sport goes into a two week break and the F1 Movie is converting new fans in cinemas around the world, Horner's sacking has made the mainstream media headlines.

There's more drama to come of course, what with where Horner might go next, indeed where Max Verstappen might go, not forgetting that legal case.

However, if Stefano and the guys at F1 Towers really want to clean up in the 'all publicity is good publicity' stakes, they need another controversial in the sport.

No disrespect to Laurent Mekies, but would Red Bull consider a man who oversaw Nelson Piquet's two titles with Brabham... just think about it, Bernie back in the pitlane.

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1. Posted by kenji, 5 hours ago

"@ Ricardo-sanchez You may well be proved right, that is, if we ever get the details. Looking back on it all it appears to me that the 'text' episode was either a 'set up' or it just appeared at the right time whereas Certain team members seized upon it as a gift that enabled them to exert more control from within the team. Marko was no doubt deeply embedded as well given the statement by Verstappen that if 'Helmut goes I go as well'!!! That increased the pressure on Horner and left him exposed to immense pressures from the 'MeToo' warriors. As @Team Hack says Jos Verstappen was given far too much latitude and I fully agree. IMO that just made it all the worse. I certainly hope that in all of the hoo har that the people who leaked the texts is unmasked as I do believe that will have a bearing on the entire issue. No doubt that dissension was rife within the team and it could not be allowed to go on without a definitive restructure."

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2. Posted by Ricardo_sanchez, 14 hours ago

"Bernie seems to be saying that Horner’s sacking is intrinsically tied to the 2024 allegations. While Red Bull’s on-track performance has obviously dipped, it’s difficult to believe they’d sack Horner in such an abrupt manner for sporting reasons alone.

The sudden nature of the removal, combined with the other departures, suggests an internal investigation that changed the board’s view of their legal and reputational exposure ahead of the 2026 tribunal. If they concluded they were likely to lose, then settling early would make sense. That would be almost impossible with Horner still in post, as it would deal a fatal blow to his reputation.

Better, perhaps, to act now and ‘run across the swamp’ during a season that’s already more or less written off, rather than risk being forced into this position at the start of ‘26, with all the destabilising impact that would have.

The fact that 2 senior aides - apparently in marketing and comms - have also gone adds weight. These individuals would have been at the centre of managing Red Bull’s reputation following the allegations. If the board felt they acted to protect Horner personally rather than safeguard the organisation’s interests, or failed to surface key facts, then removing them now completes the clean break.

However, it’s probably not just one thing: the combination of legal risk, reputational damage, poor performance and internal politics all seem to have come together at once. Bernie’s remarks about Horner ‘running his own show’ hint at that.

So I think Bernie is basically right: this was primarily about the employment dispute, but made easier to act on because of Red Bull’s performance slump and changing dynamics behind the scenes. "

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3. Posted by Team Hack, 16 hours ago

"As I see it the main problem was/is letting Jos V. become such a major force and influence in the everyday running of the business.
He should just be allowed in as a guest albeit a major one.

As well as the quirky Marko to contend with, it would have been very frustrating for Horner (whatever his failings) to make decisions."

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4. Posted by ffracer, 16 hours ago

"@Tyrbiter : Agreed that uber strong personalities and brilliant minds like Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone helped us all out of the dangerous evolution that morphed into the 1994 F1 cars, shorn of all the crazy driver aids and exposing the weak carbon tubs. "

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5. Posted by Tyrbiter, 16 hours ago

"@ffracer Modern F1 lacks the previous ability of Max and Bernie to bang heads together when necessary. That was about protecting the sport, but of course Liberty Media are only interested in controversy to pull in the punters who don't care about the sport, just the 'entertainment'."

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6. Posted by ffracer, 17 hours ago

"I will always love Bernie Ecclestone... but I think that he be best suited for a lifetime F1 consultant role not a team boss at his age. His knowledge and influence is most needed right now. "

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7. Posted by mallat, 18 hours ago

"In my opinion both uneducated not very bright men and highly-educated Executives with salaries in the millions often have something in common:
'Oi you, stop it!' is often just not enough for them, it just doesn't work.
And I'm not saying Horner really did anything, just adding to Sir Bernie's."

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8. Posted by Paulinho, 18 hours ago

"I think it will be another 18 months before we know why events happened as they did, and that's if we ever do find out. We still don't know the ins and outs of young Bernie, and look at how many years he's been out of F1. "

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9. Posted by dnorm, 19 hours ago

"Christian made the fatal mistake of thinking with the little head."

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