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Massa title claim "misguided"

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31/10/2025

As his legal challenge gets underway in London, Felipe Massa's claim on the 2008 world championship title is described as "misguided".

The Brazilian claims that losing the 2008 title by a single point hinged on the fact that the result of that year's Singapore Grand Prix should have been thrown out as a result of Nelson Piquet deliberately crashing his Renault.

Massa had been leading the race, but following the crash, which brought out the Safety Car, the Ferrari driver lost the lead due to a botched pit stop.

"Crash-gate", as it came to be known, saw Renault boss Flavio Briatore banned from the sport and led to the French manufacturer withdrawing from F1 - though both subsequently returned.

Massa lost out on the title by one point after rival Lewis Hamilton finished fifth in Brazil, the final race of the season, overtaking Timo Glock in the final corner of the final lap.

However, in 2023, in an interview with Germany's F1-Insider, Ecclestone was quoted as saying that he and (then) FIA president Max Mosley were aware of what had happened in Singapore.

"Piquet Jr had told his father Nelson that he had been asked by the team to deliberately drive into the wall at a certain point in time in order to trigger a safety car phase and help his team-mate Alonso," said the former F1 supremo. "We decided not to do anything for the time being. We wanted to protect the sport and save it from a huge scandal.

"There was a rule at the time that a world championship ranking was untouchable after the FIA awards ceremony at the end of the year," he added. "So Hamilton was presented with the world championship trophy and everything was fine."

Not so, according to Massa who is seeking £64m ($84m) in damages.

"Accountability is key to preventing future fraud," the Brazilian told The Times. "Those entrusted with protecting the sport directly violated their duties, and they cannot be allowed to benefit from concealing their own misconduct.

"Such conduct is unacceptable in any sphere of life," he added, "especially in a sport followed by millions, including children. We will pursue this to the very end in order to achieve a just and fair outcome, for myself, for motorsport in Brazil, and for the sport as a whole."

Speaking in September, Ecclestone insisted that his previous comments had been misunderstood.

"This was an interview I gave to someone in Germany. And the guy at the time, his English wasn't that good and he was taking notes, and it was picked up by someone in England," he said. "The lawyers for myself, the FIA and F1 do not understand how it can be heard in a court."

As the case gets underway in London, Ecclestone's lawyer David Quest KC described Massa's claim as a "misguided attempt to reopen the results of the 2008 F1 drivers' championship".

"Mr Massa argues that, but for the FIA's handling of the crash, he would have won the drivers' championship," he told the court. "These declarations treat the court as a sports 'debating club', asking it to embark upon a counterfactual exercise concerning the 'refereeing' of a sporting event which took place nearly 17 years ago."

John Mehrzad KC, acting for the FIA, described Massa's claim as being as "torturous as it is overly ambitious" and "conspicuously overlooks a catalogue of his own errors", while Anneliese Day KC, acting for Formula One Management, said in written submissions that the claim "will fail".

"In truth, it was not the deployment of the safety car which changed the course of history for Mr Massa, but rather a series of subsequent racing errors by him and his team during the remaining 47 laps of the race," she argued.

"The simple fact is that over the course of both the Singapore Grand Prix and across the 2008 season, Mr Hamilton outperformed Mr Massa and everyone else."

Nick De Marco KC, who is acting for Massa, said in written submissions that the defendants "cannot establish that Mr Massa's claims have no real prospect of success".

"Mr Massa has a real prospect of succeeding on all of the grounds," he insisted. "Whether the FIA breached its duties is a fact-sensitive issue on which the court should not conduct a mini trial," he added.

The hearing is due to conclude on Friday, with a ruling at a later date.

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1. Posted by kenji, 21 hours ago

"@Spindoctor Regarding the Massa topic...I agree that the initial 'lustre' has dimmed somewhat so let's rest it there until such time as a verdict is announced."

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2. Posted by Spindoctor, 22 hours ago

"@kenji
I know you relish your 'contrarian' status & being an 'outlier'. There are, however, circumstances in which rejecting a consensus is merely that: contrarian. Flat-earthers, anti-vaxers & a host of others promote contrarian views which have long been shown to be just plain wrong.

As to Massa I feel that topic has exhausted its initial interest value, the trenches have been dug & the camo nets erected....."

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3. Posted by kenji, 23 hours ago

"@Team Hack.... Thank you for the support, it's a rare commodity. hahaha I must warn you however as any agreement in principle with my [deemed] 'outlier' opinions can result in you attracting the dreaded 'red negative'. May Massa finally get his hands on a WDC trophy even if it's 16years late in arriving!. That and a dash of interest would soothe the pain somewhat. Avante e para cima."

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4. Posted by kenji, 23 hours ago

"@Spindoctor..My apologies.I neglected to respond to your accusation that I studiously avoided commenting on your proposal that Massa may well be entitled to some financial consideration! Mea culpa... so if that is seen by you as a solution, in part, on what would that consideration be based and how would it be characterised? It could not be based on remediation for the WDC loss, as he was deemed by you and others as unmeritable! Looking forward to your response....finally, some people think that I am treating this as an anti Hamilton opportunity. Wrong, as I have stated, Hamilton was merely a participant in the big game and innocent of any fraud. As BE has said,'Hamilton just got lucky'. I agree."

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5. Posted by kenji, 01/11/2025 5:13

"@Spindoctor....everything that happened post the crash was in some way influenced by the crash. With that assumption it stands to reason that the results should not stand. To not alter them, in the knowledge that a fraud has been perpetrated, is, IMO wrong. Jean Todt declared that there is no doubt that the Singapore race results should've been declared null and void / cancelled. Bernie Ecclestone said that Massa was' cheated out of the title and Hamilton got lucky'. Now I just happen to agree with those sentiments You may care to ponder the background of those making said statements. I am somewhat pleasantly pilloried at times for being an alleged
contrarian, however I do believe that looking outside the square on many occasions distinguishes one from the pack/herd mentality and opens up alternatives that are often overlooked. If those officials were guilty then and they have admitted that fact then they still are. Time does not erase the fact that a fraud was perpetrated. A reassessment of the final points tally, sans Singapore, could easily be be established and Massa would be allotted whaatever the revised position. That would be fairer than letting the status quo remain unaltered in the records as is the case now."

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6. Posted by Spindoctor, 31/10/2025 15:28

"@kenji
The 'fix' is irrelevant in the context of the WDC. Had it been intended to benefit Hamilton, then it would perhaps be a different matter.
As it stands & as has been pointed-out by everyone, their pets & so-on, Massa's result in that race was largely down to an incompetent pit stop. Playing his 'might have, could have should have...' (&c.) game, maybe Hamilton would have won every other race that season, maybe F1 fans from the Planet Tharg could have descended upon Interlagos & zapped Hamilton into atoms, maybe if...

As I remarked before & as you have studiously failed to address, Massa might well have a valid case for some kind of financial settlement against Mosely & Ecclestone or F! & FIA, but that's the end of it.

If we put that result aside, as Massa seems to want, what happens to all the Team placings for that year? Do FIA\F1 demand they return the prize money? What about all the other drivers' results? etc. etc. etc."

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7. Posted by Team Hack, 31/10/2025 14:06

"I agree with you @kenji.
Very little needs to be said about this dismal situation.
1, There was a previously well thought out planned ‘Accident’ by some team members to gain an advantage.
2, The FIA and FI knew about it and chose to do nothing.
The above is all true and not in dispute.
Regardless of how unfair it may now be to Lewis (and I am a fan) it’s irrelevant as is the amount of time it’s taken to be brought to court and counting ‘ifs’ which may or could have happened. This court case will be lead by facts only.
We cannot rewrite history because it may cause an upset or be awkward for someone.
I personally see the whole thing as a disgraceful mess and lament FI being involved in it but maybe the parties involved should have known it would one day come back and take a chunk out of their ****s.
It was a calculated risk which worked for all until now.
Now its different...
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8. Posted by kenji, 31/10/2025 12:41

"@Spindoctor...I do think that you're confused here. The 'fix' was put in place and executed as planned, resulting in a race result that was 100% manipulated by a conspiracy to defraud other teams and their drivers. Are you saying that nothing should come from the outing of those FIA officials and others involved in the subsequent cover up and that Massa has no case...despite BE owning up to the suppression of facts that could have seen a vastly different championship result. I am at a loss to understand the general trend to rubbish Massa and his attempt to get some recognition. If Hamilton were to become a casualty insofar as his WDC for 2008 would be declared invalid it would simply be a corollary of the events undertaken by those who tampered with the race results and just plain bad luck."

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9. Posted by kenji, 31/10/2025 12:19

"@Ed. I have very little interest in what happens to Hamilton's number of WDC's that he's won whether it's six/seven or whatever. The fact remains, that drivers/teams were dudded by the actions of very senior F1 officials and prime team principals. Even Charlie Whiting,historically, one of F1's luminaries was said to have known what happened and went along with the cover up and there you have it...a real conspiracy! While we're on the subject of 'questionable results' I see that Wolff is bad mouthing Michael Masi again. I think that it's high time Wolff was issued with notice to cease and desist. Wolff had the option of challenging the result legally, He even had his high profile lawyer advisor with him on the night of the race.Why did he refuse to challenge the result? IIRC Masi was charged by the FIA with making an 'error of judgement' and for that he was scapegoated and dispensed with under an NDA.
If Massa should actually win his case, which is extremely doubtful, Hamilton shouldn't be too concerned as he'll quickly win a couple more now he's had an entire season to integrate into Ferrari. He is the GOAT after all....."

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10. Posted by Editor, 31/10/2025 11:28

"@ Kenji

"Hamilton would only, by extension, lose one title."

Ah, but that one title would put him on six... meaning Michael Schumacher would be the only driver on seven.

We see you Kenji, we see you."

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11. Posted by Spindoctor, 31/10/2025 11:20

"@kenji
Lots of confusion here. There is more than one issue at stake & no reason at all for Massa to try & change history vis a vis the WDC.
Whatever shenanigans may or may not have happened within the F1 hierarchy, the drivers raced until the season end & Massa did not win the WDC, Depriving Hamilton of a EDC because you believe Ecclestone & Mosely behaved badly seems irrational.
Massa may have a case against F1 or FIA, or both. He could conceivably argue damage to his reputation & earnings potential, irrespective of overturning the race result.

One thing that's now certain: Massa's reputation & 'legacy' will now be characterised by this legal case & not by his abilities on track."

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12. Posted by kenji, 31/10/2025 10:59

"You do me an injustice there Ed. Hamilton would only, by extension, lose one title.IMO there is nothing that links Hamilton to 'crashgate', he is simply an innocent beneficiary of the fraud insofar as he was not involved. "

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13. Posted by Editor, 31/10/2025 8:41

"@ Kenji

"It's seemingly impossible to accept any certainty in the final results for that year other than they were affected by the attempted fraud in Singapore and as such should possibly be expunged from the record entirely! Radical? Yes, but a recognition that no one should gain exemption from the law. "

All of which has absolutely nothing, zilch, zero, nada... to do with the fact that it would take away one of Hamilton's titles."

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14. Posted by Celtic Tiger, 31/10/2025 3:44

"@Sennapod - Haha, touche. Ah, Mr.Walker a class act and his "Murrayisms" should be quoted more often.

“And now excuse me while I interrupt myself!”"

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15. Posted by kenji, 31/10/2025 1:37

"No matter who benefited from the fateful outcome of the 'race manipulation' surely the fact that messrs Ecclestone,Moseley and Charlie Whiting knew what happened and chose not to expose it ranks as 'accessory after the fact' and that should at the very least result in some sanction. Massa has every right to pursue some retribution. It's seemingly impossible to accept any certainty in the final results for that year other than they were affected by the attempted fraud in Singapore and as such should possibly be expunged from the record entirely! Radical? Yes, but a recognition that no one should gain exemption from the law. "

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